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University Embassy

 

This thread is to discuss relations with University of Planet, its leader Provost Zakharov.

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Morgan Industries traded University commlink from Gaians in 2127.

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Initial situation:

 

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Magnanimous

Solicitous

Cooperative

Noncommittal

Ambivalent

Obstinate

Quarrelsome

Belligerent

Seething

 

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Attempting first talks... :)

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Negotiate some techs, maybe?

 

...I thought that might be a helpful idea...

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Mission Year 2127

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Zakharov: "Welcome to Planet, CEO Morgan. You bring many unique talents to

our new world. Permit me to reintroduce myself; I now style

myself Zakharov, Provost of the University, and on this world I plan

to pursue pure research unfettered by outside motives and meddling.

Were you aware that my hated enemy, Lady Deirdre of the Gaians,

now spends most of her time dancing naked through the trees? Let us join

forces and put an end to her tree-crazy prattle!""

 

CEO Morgan: "Certainly not. Deirdre is my friend."

 

Zakharov: "I must caution you that my engineers have completed an

advanced Impact Rover prototype 4-1-2). The first units are entering service now,

rendering my forces practically invincible. An emergency has arisen at one of my bases,

CEO Morgan! Lives are at stake and information on Centauri Ecology is required immediately!

Can you help?"

 

CEO Morgan: "Well, we certainly wish to help. Would you mind helping us in return

with the data on Doctrine Flexibility technology?"

 

Zakharov: "I cannot trust you with this knowledge, CEO Morgan."

 

CEO Morgan: "We prefer trading technologies."

 

Zakharov: "I find your unwillingness to cooperate disturbing, Have you any further business?"

 

CEO Morgan: "Yes, we have an urgent need of energy credits, we would offer yearly payments."

 

Zakharov: "I have no energy to spare. Please excuse me, but I have no time to talk today."

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Zakharov refused to talk in 2128. In 2129 his mood worsened to belligerent.

 

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#MOOD

Magnanimous

Solicitous

Cooperative

Noncommittal

Ambivalent

Obstinate

Quarrelsome

Belligerent

Seething

 

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Pinging someone unhappy with you every turn is not a good idea...

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I'm not sure frequency of our calls matters here. I would say, that it is our improving relations with Gaians here that make Zakharov angry. Besides, he is the strongest power on planet so he can afford being mean.

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A thought, what do you think about asking Zakharov to stop vendetta with Deirdre?

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Hmmm. That never seems to make them more hostile and sometimes helps. Sure.

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Most likely Zakharov closes the commlink when he agrees for that. However later we may get more from Zak in better mood. We would delay further talks by 2 turns or so, but my vote also goes to stopping vendetta.

 

And here we have whole conversation for 2129:

 

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Zakharov: "Hello again, CEO Morgan. Your wealthy followers remain a force to be reckoned with. Greetings fromProvost Zakharov of the University. My nemesis, Lady Deirdre of the Gaians, is bent on stamping all legitimate sentient development of this planet. I propose that you switch allegiances and help me stop her before it is too late!"

 

CEO Morgan: "We cannot, Provost. We have a treaty of friendship with Gaians."

 

Zakharov: "Information on Centauri Ecology could prove useful to my research. Can you transmit it to me as a personal favor?"

 

CEO Morgan: "Would you share your data on Doctrine Flexibility?"

 

Zakharov: "No, I do not trust you with this knowledge."

 

CEO Morgan: "Then we cannot trade our technology."

 

Zakharov: "Any further business?"

 

CEO Morgan: "Yes, Provost. Would you end your vendetta against my friend, Lady Deirdre?"

 

Zakharov: "So be it! As a personal favor for you, I shal pledge truce with Lady Deirdre. I have to return to my duties, CEO Morgan. Till next time."

 

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I cannot check, if Zak and Deirdre signed further Treaty, often AI do that.

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MY 2131.

Zakharov is seething, but he wants to talk, so let us see, what interesting he has to say.

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Zakharov: Welcome CEO Morgan. Your forces are to be reckoned with. Were you aware, that my enemy, Colonel Santiago spends now most of her time polishing her artillery pieces? Let us join forces and put an end to her paranoid delusions!

 

CEO Morgan: Well, we have an agreement with Santiago. That's not possible. We need to keep our integrity.

 

Zakharov: Ok then. I have a request. Information on Centauri Ecology would prove useful to my research. Could you transmit this to me as a personal favor?

 

CEO Morgan: Indeed, Centauri Ecology is very useful on Chiron. You certainly should have this files after 31 years on this planet. How about exchanging it for your files on Cyberethics?

 

Zakharov: I cannot trust you with this knowledge, Morgan. So what with the favor?

 

CEO Morgan: After transfer of Cyberethics, I think.

 

Zakharov: You could cooperate more, CEO Morgan. Any further business?

 

CEO Morgan: How about a loan of energy for a generous schedule of payments?

 

Zakharov: No, I have no energy to spare. Zakharov out.

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2138-start:

 

Zak calls seething.

 

He is under attack by Colonel Santiago and asks us to join him in his vendetta. He would offer us 25EC, Cyberethics and a Pact.

 

What do I reply?

- Too bad. You're on your own

- Agreed. Vendetta on the Spartans!

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I don't think vendetta with the Spartans is a very good idea.

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Objectively, no.

 

But here, the University is unsurpassed. With Pact, we'll be able to exchange techs, they'll even grant us some, perhaps even some units.

 

On the other hand, Sparta is on the other side of this huge sea of fungus. We'll see them coming and can wait for them with probes. Only danger would be an amphibious attack like they probably use to take a city from Zak.

 

I don't know. (But I tend to lean to Pact myself)

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Being Sparta, they'll probably already have surplus units to send at us. Do you think we could mount a defense in time?

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Time to defend we have.

But I'd much prefer not to divert resources when we should be trying to grab 2 or 3 SPs.

 

The fear I have is: Zak is seething.

If we reject this offer, we could be at vendetta with the guy on top of the food chain instead of getting goodies and commerce boost to fight some faraway faction.

 

Should I try different outcomes?

It seems it was approved for diplomacy.

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Dunno. I always like to bide my time building up and let the vendettas come to me. And at this stage of the game, the Spartans can get at us without an amphibious barrier - which no one else can.

 

We're ahead of the Uni in tech right now...

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We'll wait to see what the others think.

Mart? NBCman?

 

But I shall de facto judge what Zak would do since I have to close the game to use internet in good conditions.

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Not much.

He just asks for Centaury Ecology but refuses to trade for Cyberethics, then warns us about being to greedy because of Wealth. Then he accepted to end the vendetta with Santiago.

 

It seems I feared too much. If this outcome is acceptable for everyone, I have it saved.

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Y'know, we want them to fight, as long as it doesn't affect our diplomacy too negatively... Just sayin'.

 

Did you try the tech trade again after he ended the vendetta?

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Y'know' date=' we [i']want [/i]them to fight, as long as it doesn't affect our diplomacy too negatively... Just sayin'.

 

Did you try the tech trade again after he ended the vendetta?

No. Should I try it again?

Though I don't think we can get a level 4 tech for a level 1 one.

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Dunno. They hate it when you call too often.

 

I feel that way about being PMed too much, myself...

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Yeah but I meant: redoing the conversation.

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I concur with BU. A vendetta with the Spartans is not a good idea ATM since the Spartans are on our continent. If Zak wants to declare vendetta on us, so be it-he has to navally invade which will take a while to get to us.

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I don't know.

I think Mart didn't redo diplomacy but I seem to recall we didn't fix that question.

 

It's probably better to let it be like it is. No vendetta going.

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